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#1 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 12:39:20 PM Quote
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Hello folks
Just too say compleatley changing your diet won,t cure R.A
but i eat live yoghurt which i make my self .And it has made a tiny bit of differance .I eat it for the scleroderma tummy side off things . christine ThumpUp
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#2 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 7:33:09 PM Quote
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Hi,

I most definitely agree that diet won't cure RA however I do believe we are what we eat to a great extent.

There have been very many interesting studies that show rheumatoid can be helped via diet, and some extraordinary diets- like the Max Gerson diet etc, but I am still not willing to attempt that one.

In all my many years of having rheumatoid I have only ever met one person who controls her RA by diet. I have asked her question after question and feel she is just incredibly lucky/blessed.

We try very hard to eat absolutely no white sugar and white flour as both work as glue to the insides and have zero nutritional value etc.

And we do eat animal fat as this is good for you and essential for good health! I make our own cream cheese from yoghurt which is more tarte in taste but delicious..

Love,
Amanda
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#3 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 7:40:59 PM Quote
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Dear Amanda,
Can you please put the recipe for Home made Cream Cheese on here?
I would really like to give it a go !
Kind regards,
FionaSmile
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#4 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 7:54:19 PM Quote
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Hi Fiona,

Okay...it is VERY simple..

You can use either; whole-milk buttermilk OR yoghurt OR raw milk (I know, but it is the least tampered with- we don't get it often here)

Line a large strainer set over a bowl with a clean tea towel.

Pour in the yoghurt (or milk) , cover and let stand at room temperature for several hours (about 6/7/8).

The whey will run into the bowl and the milk solids will stay in the strainer.

Tie up the towel with the milk solids inside, being careful not to squeeze.

Tie this little sack to a wooden spoon placed across the top of a container so that more can drip out.

When the bag stops dripping, the cheese is ready.

Store the whey in a mason jar and cream cheese in a covered glass container.

Refrigerated, the cream lasts for about a month and the whey for 8 mths.

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The reasons for keeping and using whey (just in case you're wondering!)

Whey is such a good helper as it contains alot of minerals. One tablespoon of whey in water helps with indigestion. It helps keep joints elastic and moveable. Also helps with stomach upsets. I add it to cooking too.

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#5 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 8:03:54 PM Quote
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Dear Amanda,
Thank you for the recipe.
I will definately give it a go.
Right now, however, I am beginning to think that, minute by minute, I
may be coming down with a cold virus.
Steve got home from work a short while ago and said that my voice was sounding croaky!
Best wishes,
FionaRollEyes
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#6 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 8:12:49 PM Quote
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Well you need to drain the yoghurt .
You may not be able to drain yoghurt with thickners or stabilirers .So home made or easy yo is the one too use .I have a drainer .Little net thing .Drain for 8 hours
I used to make the chesse .Will have to start again .Once drained you use the thick white chesse .
you can make dips as well .

i make yoghurt either easy yo or start my own from the easy yo which keeps going for ages i use milk from
waxed carton as its been strislised but you don,t have too .
i just use an lakeland yoghurt maker and the drainer come from lakeland .If i use easy yo i just mix it in the lakeland maker .I find easy yo usefull encase i forget to save some to start a other batch .

i make yoghurt scones as well and yoghurt choc cake sometimes .From the easy yo cook book .
i only make plain yoghurt .

christine

Sorry i wrote it as the same time as the other one came in .
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#7 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:35:33 AM Quote
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I am not sure if i am missing something but is the Home made cream cheese helpful to RA or is it more helpful to the sufferer. ;) I like cream doughnuts myself :) However i can be partial to natural yoghurt, fruit and granola. I use to use buttermilk for making scones and sour bread but very hard to get in London..... and forget sourcing it organically.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:43:13 AM Quote
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Just a note for people on Humira.
I'm not sure if it's the same for all the biologic drugs but the humira info warns against anything made with unpasteurised milk.

Doreen xx
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#9 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:24:52 PM Quote
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Hi .
A question when you are making chesse from buttermilk or milk and not the yoghurt .
It would go strait though the dainer ??????.

This morning i had yoghurt on the brain so i made up a batch and now i am making cream chesse which i have not made for years .Have found up my little strainers .

live yoghurt is good for me as i have scleroderma it helps whats not working right or 100% though i have not full blown scleroderma i have slight promlems .
It has made a differance since i have it for breckie most mornings on my ceral or with some fruit .
i guess it helps as i tend to live on long term anti bo cis

Just too say the brought sort like Ativemil .I looked up what was what the best yoghurt is the homemade or easy yo as its has the most live culchers .
Christine
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#10 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:53:54 PM Quote
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Actually, I use a cotton napkin to do the straining as yes a tea towel (well a thick one) is too thick for the liquid to come through.

It is the way it is held over the bowl, it just drips all day!

Apologies for the raw milk reference- sorry to be so controversial.

Love as always,

Amanda
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#11 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:00:53 PM Quote
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No need to apologise Amanda, for most people it probably won't do any harm, but I just thought I'd mention it for those taking Humira. It's a pain actually, fancy going to Greece and not being able to eat feta cheese!Huh

Doreen xx
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#12 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:25:03 PM Quote
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Criminal indeed Doreen! No feta when in Greece- such a beautiful place too...where have you been?

Sorry, i just didn't want to be advertising foods which may have implications.

We just adore cheese here and have cheese boards ALOT...ironically it goes very well with......red wine! LOL

Much love,
A

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#13 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:21:42 PM Quote
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Hard cheese is ok like cheddar etc but not soft cheeses or any made with unpasteurised milk.
In fact everything they advise pregnant women to avoid, anyone taking humira has to avoid.

Doreen xx
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#14 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:01:47 AM Quote
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dorat wrote:
Hard cheese is ok like cheddar etc but not soft cheeses or any made with unpasteurised milk.
In fact everything they advise pregnant women to avoid, anyone taking humira has to avoid.

Doreen xx


I've recently been given a new blood test book for MTX written by my local hospital and they say the same ...... avoid foods made from unpasturised milk and uncooked meats such as pate. They may be a source of bacteria which could increase your risk of infection. They advise to read food labels carefully and avoid eating these types of food.

Stewart knows this after eating goats' cheese! Wink

Carol
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#15 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:04:04 AM Quote
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Hi Carol,

So have we to avoid these foods while taking mtx as well now?
Poor Stewart, trust him to learn the hard way!

Doreen xx
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#16 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2009 4:21:35 PM Quote
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I have to say that I had heard - vaguely - about avoiding certain foods while on humira, but have to admit I have eaten both brie, feta, and mayo at various times and haven`t suffered any nasty effects. I`m partial to Camembert too. Maybe I`ve just been lucky so far!

Kathleen x

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#17 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2009 4:37:35 PM Quote
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Oh Kathleen - camembert and brie - yuuummmyyy
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#18 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:30:42 PM Quote
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We eat so much cheese...all types, especially brie, haloumi (divine fried in olive oil!) and feta...

Love,
A
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#19 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 2:45:13 PM Quote
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Try Paneer. Semi-solid cheese commonly used in Bangaleshi cookery. A bit like torfu in appearance.

Fantastic if browned in a good olive oil and topped with torn basil. Eat with pitta bread or a nan.

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#20 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 2:50:00 PM Quote
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On the subject of cheeses I have introduced Mandy to the delights of local Welsh cheeses. All made from unpasteurised milk in local farms. The inner of last years competition is now on general sale (unfortunately this version is made with pasteurised milk). It is called Snowdonia and has a black wax shell.

My favourite is the ripening goats cheese from Dyffed. Still semi solid and very creamy. I am in heaven with a good dollop of that drizzled with honey and a wedge of fresh baked crusty bread.
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